They have never met, but Alan Yoder and Ray Fite have something in common.
They both lost much of their retirement savings to a shadowy entity known as Methwold International Finance Co.
Yoder, of Durango, invested $125,000 in a subdivision with local builder Cameron Winters.
But Yoder said the money ended up in what turned out to be a Ponzi scheme.
Whether he knew it was a Ponzi scheme or not, I dont know, Yoder said.
Winters said he did not want to hash out a personal dispute with Yoder in the newspaper. But hes trying to put the Methwold episode behind him.
I lost a lot of money, and it just about ruined me financially. Not just me, but a lot of other individuals, said Winters, who opened a zipline park in Durango.
According to a list of investors obtained by The Durango Herald, neither Winters nor Yoder invested with Fred Baker, the former Durango man who is doing prison time for defrauding about 80 people in a related Ponzi scheme.
But Baker knew Winters. Baker created a company for his scheme called Nth International and listed its address as 954 East Second Ave., Suite 102 in Durango the same address and suite as Cameron Winters Construction, public records show.
Then theres Ray Fite.
Fite, now living in Hawaii, invested with a Utah friend named Don Yarter, in what Fite was told was an international development project.
Whether investors worked through Baker or Yarter or Winters, all their money disappeared into the same black hole Methwold. Fite blames Methwolds foreign officers, not Yarter or anyone else in the Four Corners.
These guys, it wasnt their first rodeo, and as far as I know, theyre still doing it, Fite said.
A company in the shadows
Internet searches for Methwold turn up mostly pages on Ponzi forums or consumer complaint websites where people say theyve been ripped off by the company or its officers Rex Miller, Robin Marter and Jim Fergus.
Its unclear whether Methwold was a Ponzi scheme itself or simply one of the many offshore, online companies that act as banks for other Ponzis.
An archived version of its webpage, which is now defunct, said the company provided Asset Management and Private Banking Services to Corporate, Institutional and Private Clients worldwide.
Methwold is registered in New Zealand, which is the easiest country in the world to start a company, according to the World Bank. The man who registered Methwold Swedish citizen Carl Michael Magnusson was arrested in Panama last May for money laundering.
In 2009, Methwold filed a lawsuit in Las Vegas against people who said they lost money to the company. Its a little-known kind of case known as an interpleador suit, and its one of the only times in the legal system that its good to be the defendant, said Methwolds lawyer, Shane Clayton.
The purpose is to let the judge determine which victims are owed money, and in return for joining the case, the victims give up their right to sue separately.
Methwold wanted to deposit $1.3 million with the court, but to Claytons surprise, the judge said he didnt have jurisdiction. Some victims have reached private settlements with Methwold and got back some of their money, Clayton said.
Others havent seen a dime.
Methwold officers did not return a message left through Clayton.
Follow the money
In any case, the numbers dont add up.
Prosecutors in Colorado said Baker and his chief marketer, Mark Akins, were responsible for $1.7 million in fraudulent investments.
Kevin Bryden, Bakers bookkeeper, kept a spreadsheet that the Herald obtained through a source. It showed Bakers investors were owed $1.4 million for his fictitious currency trades and another $1.2 million through private placement with Methwold. Apparently, all the money that Baker didnt spend on himself ended up with Methwold. But Bryden testified that he wasnt a trained accountant and might have made many errors on his books.
And his spreadsheet does not cover dozens more people around the country and in Durango who lost money to Methwold but did not invest through Baker.
Winters, for example, filed a response to the Las Vegas lawsuit that said he and his friends were owed $1.5 million. And other victims who werent related to either Baker or Winters claim more than half a million dollars in additional losses.
Its unclear how Yarter, the Methwold frontman in Utah, fits in. Some investors call him a villain, and others say hes just another victim of Methwold.
A Washington state victim, in a legal filing in the Las Vegas case, identified Baker and Yarter as the principals who directed the Durango scheme.
But Fite, the victim from Hawaii, remains close friends with Yarter and said Yarter was duped out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Hes had a really tough time, just like the rest of us, Fite said. All of us older guys who put our life savings into that stuff, we simply got screwed.
There are other Yarters and other Bakers, and many more victims, Fite said. Methwolds modus operandi, Fite said, is to choose local frontmen who can use their trust in the community to lure in victims.
In New York, it was a psychic who recruited victims who shared an interest in New Age spirituality.
In Utah, it was Yarter. Court documents and social media postings show many of the victims shared Yarters conservative politics.
There were half a dozen other groups here in the states who had nothing to do with Yarter, nothing to do with Baker, and they still got screwed. So what does that tell you? Fite said.
The Herald could not find contact information for Yarter, and messages left with his friends went unreturned.
No charges so far
The U.S. Attorneys Office in Colorado knew that Baker had sent his victims money to Methwold, but prosecutors did not bring charges related to the company.
The office did not answer questions about why only a portion of the case was charged. But during Bakers sentencing hearing in 2011, Assistant U.S. Attorney Bob Mydans offered a few clues.
We are aware of this Methwold, but we attempted to keep that separate and distinct from this particular case, Mydans said. We do know (Baker) was associated with this Don Yarter, but I think at this point its probably not appropriate to go into any more concerning that. There may be other investigations pending.
Mydans died of a heart attack while snowshoeing in Rocky Mountain National Park last February. No charges have been brought against Yarter.
And the money has never been recovered, so someone is laughing all the way to the offshore bank.
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